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Kennedy Ground Has A Sense of Humor

JFK Ground controller jokes that pilots should face forward to avoid scaring the passengers.

2009-05-22 John F. Kennedy International Airport (JFK), New York

Summary

A Cathay Pacific pilot at JFK requests pushback instructions, leading to a witty exchange with the Ground controller. The controller jokes about the physical orientation of the pilot, prompting a nearby JetBlue pilot to join the banter. This lighthearted moment showcases the human side of late-night air traffic control operations at a major international hub.

Analysis

This recording captures a classic moment of "ATC humor" during a late-night shift at New York’s John F. Kennedy International Airport (JFK). The exchange begins when Cathay 889, a heavy aircraft at Terminal 7, asks for pushback approval and specifically asks which direction they should face upon entering the taxiway. In aviation terms, this refers to the nose of the aircraft pointing toward a cardinal direction (North, South, etc.) or toward a specific taxiway to facilitate their departure route.

The controller, likely enjoying a lull in the normally frantic JFK traffic at 10:45 PM, takes the pilot’s question literally. He quips that the pilot should "face the front" so as not to scare the passengers by looking at them while trying to fly. This "dad joke" style of humor is a hallmark of experienced controllers who use wit to build rapport with aircrews and alleviate the monotony of routine operations. The Cathay pilot takes the joke in stride, playing along before confirming a northward orientation on Taxiway Alpha.

The humor proves infectious as JetBlue 1087, waiting on a different part of the airport, chimes in. The JetBlue pilot asks for a "direct Charlotte" clearance while still on the ground—an impossible request, as "direct" routing usually refers to skipping navigational waypoints in the air, not flying a straight line from a taxiway across several states. The controller plays along, noting that while he'd allow it, "Washington Center" (the ARTCC responsible for the airspace to the south) would certainly have an issue with it.

These interactions are notable because they highlight the professional but human relationship between pilots and controllers. While JFK is famous for its "grumpy" or high-speed controllers, this transcript shows the more relaxed, jovial side of the tower. For non-experts, it demonstrates that even in a highly regulated, safety-critical environment, there is room for personality and levity when the workload permits.

Technical aspects mentioned include "push and start" (the process of using a tug to move an aircraft away from the gate and starting engines), "Heavy" (a designation for aircraft with a maximum takeoff weight of 300,000 pounds or more, requiring greater wake turbulence separation), and "Washington Center" (the Air Route Traffic Control Center that manages high-altitude traffic once it leaves the New York area).

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Original ATC Communication

Plain English Translation

PILOT - CATHAY 889
Good evening Kennedy Ground, Cathay 889.
PILOT - CATHAY 889
Good evening Kennedy Airport ground control, this is Cathay flight 889.
ATC
Cathay 889, good evening.
ATC
Cathay 889, good evening to you.
PILOT - CATHAY 889
Good evening. Cathay 889 is at Terminal 7 on B6, requesting start and push. We have to push back onto Alpha.
PILOT - CATHAY 889
Good evening. Cathay 889 is parked at Terminal 7, Gate B6. We’re ready to start our engines and get pushed out of the gate, and we'll need to back out onto taxiway Alpha.
ATC
Cathay 889 heavy, pushback is approved.
ATC
Cathay 889, you’re a big one tonight. You're all clear to push back from the gate.
PILOT - CATHAY 889
Cathay 889, which direction would you like us to face?
PILOT - CATHAY 889
This is Cathay 889, which direction would you like the nose of the plane to point when we're done?
ATC
Oh, you'd better face the front, sir, because if you're looking at the passengers and trying to fly, they get scared.
ATC
Oh, you’d better face forward, sir, because if you’re looking back at the passengers while trying to fly, they’re going to get pretty scared.
PILOT - CATHAY 889
Well, that's a good point. You want us to face north then, obviously, on the pushback?
PILOT - CATHAY 889
Well, that’s a fair point. So I assume you want us pointing north, then, once we’re out on the taxiway?
ATC
Yeah, you can face north on Alpha.
ATC
Yeah, you can point north once you're on taxiway Alpha.
PILOT - CATHAY 889
Okay, thank you.
PILOT - CATHAY 889
Okay, thank you.
ATC
You're welcome. Come on, you've gotta have a little humor at quarter to 11:00.
ATC
You’re very welcome. Come on, you’ve gotta have a little sense of humor when it's almost 11:00 at night.
PILOT - JETBLUE 1087
Kennedy, JetBlue 1087 exiting Golf with Papa, and we're requesting direct Charlotte. How's that for humor?
PILOT - JETBLUE 1087
Kennedy, this is JetBlue 1087. We're coming off taxiway Golf with the latest weather update, and we’re requesting to fly in a straight line all the way to Charlotte. How’s that for a joke?
ATC
JetBlue 1087 Kennedy, well, you could go that way if you'd like. I'm sure somebody in Washington Center would probably scream about it, but let's go right off short of November for now.
ATC
JetBlue 1087, well, you could certainly try to fly that way. I’m sure the controllers down in D.C. would have a fit about it, but for now, let's just have you turn right and stop just before you reach taxiway November.
PILOT - JETBLUE 1087
Okay, off short of November, JetBlue 1087.
PILOT - JETBLUE 1087
Okay, we'll stop just short of taxiway November, JetBlue 1087.

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